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Katharine Strange's avatar

I think there's a lot of confusion about terms like freedom and autonomy in our culture, generally speaking. And a lot of fear of what might happen if we back off being highly controlled. I see this all-or-nothing thinking a lot in religious contexts when it comes to deprioritizing rules.

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Katie H's avatar

I think when parents say “but kids need limits and consequences", what they really mean is that they think kids need punishment. This is something I've noticed from a lot casual conversations with other parents about discipline. The idea that a kid's behaviour must be shaped, at least in part, with negative reinforcement, like a lab rat, is pervasive. They don't think it counts as a "consequence" otherwise.

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